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		<title>HCSB vs. ESV Update</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nathancreitz</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Update #2 - 4.28.09] There&#8217;s a rumor floating around that the 2nd edition of the Holman Christian Standard Bible will be coming out in September of this year. However, I got an email from Jim Baird, the Vice President of &#8230; <a href="http://churchethos.com/book-review/hcsb-vs-esv-update/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1586402757?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=nathcrei-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1586402757" target="_blank"><img class="size-full wp-image-500 alignleft" style="margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px;" title="d231828fd7a04b0a79a15110l" src="http://churchethos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/d231828fd7a04b0a79a15110l.jpg" alt="HCSB Study Bible" width="239" height="350" /></a>[Update #2 - 4.28.09] There&#8217;s a rumor floating around that the 2nd edition of the Holman Christian Standard Bible will be coming out in September of this year. However, I got an email from Jim Baird, the Vice President of Marketing and Sales, informing me that it won&#8217;t be coming out until 2010.</p>
<p>[Update #1 3.31.09] I recently wrote a <a href="http://churchethos.wordpress.com/2009/03/06/why-i-chose-the-hcsb-over-the-esv/" target="_blank">post</a> about why I love the Holman Christian Standard Bible translation. Will at <a href="http://anwoth.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/hcsb-tops-esv-in-cbas-bsl/" target="_blank">Anwoth</a> tipped me off to the updated data that the HCSB has now surpassed the English Standard Version on the Christian Bookseller&#8217;s Association Best Seller List. You can find their bestseller lists <a href="http://www.cbaonline.org/nm/BSLs.htm" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>Last month when I wrote my previous post about the HCSB and the ESV, the NIV was #1, the ESV was #5, and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the HCSB was #6</span>. Now, the NIV is #1, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the HCSB is #2</span>, and the ESV takes sixth place. <strong><em>I predict that we will see the HCSB as the #1 Bible translation of choice within the next year.</em></strong></p>
<p>Will does a great job of attributing the success of the HCSB to 3 factors:</p>
<p>1. It is readable and appeals to all English speaking Christians.</p>
<p>2. But it is very accurate, not willing to succumb to tradition or doctrinal biases in the translational choices. This appeals to the scholars.</p>
<p>3. Finally, though the marketing from the publisher hasn&#8217;t been particularly effective, the viral marketing has been very effective.</p>
<p>I think the ESV appeals to a lot of extremely reformed individuals and has been talked about by their champions (Piper, Driscoll, etc.) But, the HCSB is far superior as a translation because it seems to supercede the calvinism vs. arminianism debate. All translations have a slight bias but the HCSB may be the most unbiased translation ever to be produced in the history of Bible translations. So when I say that I really like it as a translation, I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a biased opinion. <img src='http://churchethos.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You can buy the new Holman Christian Standard Bible <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1586402757?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=nathcrei-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1586402757">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Why I Chose the HCSB over the ESV</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nathancreitz</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Be sure to read this 3/31/09 update! I think I&#8217;m tired of hearing about the English Standard Version (ESV) of the Bible. Let me be clear, I&#8217;m grateful we English speakers have so many versions of the Bible to choose &#8230; <a href="http://churchethos.com/book-review/why-i-chose-the-hcsb-over-the-esv/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be sure to read this 3/31/09 <a href="http://churchethos.wordpress.com/2009/03/31/hcsb-vs-esv-update/" target="_self">update</a>!<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1586402757?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=nathcrei-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1586402757"><img class="size-medium wp-image-500 alignleft" style="margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px;" title="HCSB Study Bible" src="http://churchethos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/d231828fd7a04b0a79a15110l.jpg?w=204" alt="d231828fd7a04b0a79a15110l" width="204" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>I think I&#8217;m tired of hearing about the English Standard Version (ESV) of the Bible. Let me be clear, I&#8217;m grateful we English speakers have so many versions of the Bible to choose from, but when a version is elevated to cult like status something&#8217;s wrong. I skim through a lot of blogs and people are always writing posts saying &#8220;Mark Driscoll said &#8216;x&#8217;&#8221; and &#8220;John Piper said &#8216;y&#8217;&#8221;. Since they are ESV users, all the Christian bloggers seem to jump at the chance to be like their hero.</p>
<p><strong>The ESV-Only Crowd</strong></p>
<p>I like Mark Driscoll and I like John Piper and I&#8217;m grateful for the ESV. However, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s the best English version of the Bible out there today and the only reason it is outselling the others is because of its cult-like following. I&#8217;m afraid that in 100 years when it&#8217;s time to move on to a fresher translation people are going to be &#8220;ESV-only&#8221; fanatics. People will be saying, &#8220;Don&#8217;t you know that when Moses received the Ten Commandments, they were written in ESV English?&#8221;</p>
<p>To be honest, the ESV is a &#8220;formal equivalence&#8221; or word-for-word translation that is too rigid and literal. I don&#8217;t see how ESV lovers see a difference in the ESV and the NASB (again, I like the NASB as much as I like the ESV &#8211; I just think they are too literal and hard to read). The only thing I&#8217;ve heard that is different about the ESV is that it seems to use less words to say the same thing as the NASB, so it is a simpler translation by comparison and therefore seems easier to understand.</p>
<p><strong>That&#8217;s What I Thought!</strong></p>
<p>On the opposite end you have the NIV. The NIV is a &#8220;dynamic equivalence&#8221; or thought-for-thought translation. The NIV is very readable but it looses a lot of the precision of a word-for-word translation. They both have their problems. One is too literal and rigid for an idiomatic language such as Greek. The other is too loose with its interpretations of the thought of the original author. Sometimes the NIV makes a decision about what the author intended that other scholars disagree with. But when you commit to a thought-for-thought you have to claim to know the exact thought the author intended.</p>
<p><strong>Optimizing the Translation</strong></p>
<p>Enter the only &#8220;optimal equivalence&#8221; translation &#8211; the Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB). Now, before I sound like other bloggers who think the ESV was handed straight to them while they were hiking up Mount Sinai one day, let me say that the HCSB also has its theological slants just like all translations. I&#8217;ve done lots of comparisons on a verse-by-verse basis between the Greek text, the HCSB, the NIV, and the ESV (especially in the New Testament) and I can tell you that there are some translations that will occasionally translate a verse better (in my opinion) than the HCSB. But time and time again I think the HCSB puts the verbage in a way that is both more precise than the ESV and more readable than the NIV.</p>
<p>Basically, &#8220;optimal equivalence&#8221; is a marriage between formal and dynamic equivalence translation. It&#8217;s the best of the ESV AND the NIV styles. The HCSB approaches translation with a word-for-word mentality, but when that just doesn&#8217;t quite get the essence of the meaning the translators used the phrase-for-phrase method. If there is something idiomatic in the text, the HCSB translators have the freedom to deviate from a literal interpretation and capture the sense of the author&#8217;s intent.</p>
<p><strong>HCSB + ESL = A OK</strong></p>
<p>The HCSB is the best English translation for both the understanding of the author&#8217;s original meaning and for modern English speakers. It is a bridge between the ancient world and the modern world. It is the translation of choice when I give a Bible to an international student who might be learning English.</p>
<p>Let me conclude by saying, I&#8217;m not in love with a translation. However, I felt it wise to push back against the cult-like following of the ESV and say that there are other options for people who don&#8217;t do everything Driscoll and Piper tell them to do. Our translations will always have a minor problem here or there and we should always strive for the best but let&#8217;s not get involved in translation wars. Whatever you&#8217;ve chosen as your translation (remember, The Message is not a translation) spend time in it, hide it in your heart, let it draw you closer to God. For those of you who are ESV users I&#8217;m grateful that you&#8217;ve found it helpful and understandable.</p>
<p>Note: Here is a great information <a href="http://bhpublishinggroup.com/hcsb/hcsb_intro.asp" target="_blank">source</a> that includes video and history of the HCSB translation.</p>
<p>Update: The <a href="http://www.cbaonline.org/nm/BSLs.htm" target="_blank">Christian Booksellers Association</a> lists the HCSB as the 6th most popular Bible as of March 2009. The ESV is #5 and the NIV is #1.</p>
<p>You can buy the new Holman Christian Standard Bible <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1586402757?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=nathcrei-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1586402757">here</a>.</p>
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