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		<title>Tithing Ethos: The Habit of Giving in the Church</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some argue that tithing is not a New Testament Church concept. Others believe that if you are a true Christian you will set aside 10% (or more) of your income each paycheck to give to your local church. Most, on &#8230; <a href="http://churchethos.com/church-reform/tithing-ethos/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Some argue that tithing is not a New Testament Church concept. Others believe that if you are a true Christian you will set aside 10% (or more) of your income each paycheck to give to your local church. Most, on the other hand, feel caught somewhere in between. Regardless of your position on the matter, there is a<span style="color:#000000;text-decoration:none;"> </span><a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/bc/2008/006/5.11.html" target="_blank">study</a> that shows a disturbing trend among American Christians concerning our giving. The study specifically deals with tithes in and through the church and I&#8217;m sure there is lots of giving that is done through other means (at least I hope so). Nevertheless, the information is troubling and we need to take a serious look at the habit of giving in the church.</p>
<p>But should we make the church a clearing house for all of our charitable giving? Is tithing, or giving of any kind in the church, mandated by Jesus and/or the apostles? What if your budget doesn&#8217;t include room for a tithe one month? Does God forgive you that debt? Or should you pay Him back later?</p>
<p><strong>Seasons GREEDings</strong></p>
<p>To begin with, let&#8217;s look at all the reasons Christians don&#8217;t tithe regardless of whether they believe it is encouraged by Jesus or the apostles. According to this study, there are five primary reasons for the fact that &#8220;the wealthiest national body of Christian believers at any time in all of church history end up spending most of their money on themselves.&#8221;</p>
<p>Basically, Christians in America don&#8217;t give because of:<br />
€. Institutionalized Mass Consumerism.<br />
(Translation: Greed, Worldliness, Selfishness, Independence, Christmas)<br />
£. A lack of pastoral teaching on giving.<br />
(Translation: Lack of communication / Pastor is scared of sheep)<br />
$. A confusion about purpose, meaning, and expectations of giving.<br />
(Translation: Lack of communication)<br />
¥. A lack of trust in the elders or the institution of the church to spend the money wisely.<br />
(Translation: If they spend it, it will be wasted&#8230;If I spend it, I will be able to buy 367 Starbucks coffees this year.)<br />
¢. The privatization of the topic to the point that no one is held accountable in their finances.<br />
(Translation: Lack of communication / Laziness / Embarrassment for our own greed)</p>
<p>It seems that greed and a failure to communicate are the two biggest reasons people don&#8217;t give. The study also confirmed that the 80/20 rule is still at work in our churches. In this case, 20% of the members are giving 86.4% of the total donations to the church. The average giving from all Christian church members comes out to about 2.9% of their total income being given to the church. What do we do with the rest? With Christmas just around the corner I&#8217;ll let you figure that out for yourself. Ho! Ho! Ho!</p>
<p><strong>Help Me Spend My Money, Pastor!</strong></p>
<p>One really interesting part of the research was what could be accomplished if people did tithe a full ten percent. In fact, if only the &#8220;committed&#8221; Christians (as defined in the research) would give 10% of their income there would be an extra $46 billion dollars a year for kingdom work in the American church alone. Again, regardless of whether or not you think people <em>should</em> tithe or that the church will actually be faithful to spend that money wisely&#8230;just think what that kind of money could do. A few examples given in the research reveals what that much more money could provide: food, clothing and shelter for ALL 6.5 million current refugees in Africa, Asia, and the Middle East <strong>or</strong> enough resources to sponsor 20 million needy children worldwide. Is that what the church would spend the money on? Who knows? But it illustrates what could be done if American Christians were more generous.</p>
<p><strong>Legalistically Tender</strong></p>
<p>But none of that addresses whether or not we <strong><em>should</em></strong> tithe from a Biblical standpoint. Is tithing an unnecessary habit for those of us who do our best to tithe whether or not we think we&#8217;ve got the money to spend? Or is tithing a necessary habit for those who have given nothing to the church for years and just expect all pastors to have big inheritances that allow them to preach and teach for free?</p>
<p>Yes and No!</p>
<p>I refuse to answer those questions legalistically. I think the possibilities of what <strong><em>could</em></strong> be done if more people gave more to the church is a compelling argument for giving through the church. But should it be ten percent? I&#8217;m actually going to come right out and say a big fat &#8220;No&#8221; on that one. Should we give? Absolutely! But how much? That&#8217;s between you and God&#8230;but I would suggest that you talk about it with someone else too. The Bible doesn&#8217;t clearly mandate a tithe today but I think there are some people who know God is challenging them to increase their giving but they refuse God because of their selfishness. Take, for example, the story of the Rich Young Ruler who came to Jesus and said he had kept all of the commandments of God. Jesus perceived his heart and told him to go and sell everything he had and give it to the poor. Certainly we don&#8217;t believe THAT&#8217;s what we need to be doing is it? Probably not, but the point is that Jesus knew the man&#8217;s heart and knew his greed and corruption. Some people are very generous people and don&#8217;t have a problem here&#8230;but others need to take a deep look at their spending habits.</p>
<p><strong>How Much Does It Cost?</strong></p>
<p>Maybe instead of thinking we have to tithe ten percent to the church we should consider that everything we have belongs to God and is a blessing from God. Maybe we should take a look at our monthly expenditures and make two columns: &#8220;Spent on Me&#8221; and &#8220;Spent on Others&#8221; and see which one is smaller. Maybe we should ask the question, &#8220;Does my spending reflect my love for God and love for others or does it just reflect my love for myself?&#8221; Maybe we should become more transparent in our churches about our finances: pastors faithfully teaching, members faithfully responding, Christians holding one another accountable, etc. Maybe we need to first ask &#8220;What does the Bible say about money in general?&#8221; and then decide prayerfully about how much money, time, resources, and talents we should give to the church. Maybe we should be asking, &#8220;How much does it cost to follow Jesus?&#8221;</p>
<p>In the end, I believe the Bible tells us to give sacrificially. Sometimes we do that through the church. Other times we see a need and give to it. The Bible teaches a lot about money and giving so we don&#8217;t have to be stuck in a debate about tithing (notice I decided not to quote Bible verses for or against in this post. Study it for yourself!). Let&#8217;s simply give to the causes and to the people that mean the most in our lives and not just store up treasures for ourselves. No need for rules here, like what percentage is Biblical or do we tithe on gross or net income, etc. But when God&#8217;s love sweeps us away and we have a passion for the world and for the family of God we can&#8217;t help but give generously and sacrificially to others.</p>
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<p  class="related_post_title">Further Reading:</p><ul class="related_post"><li><a href="http://churchethos.com/making-disciples/cant-we-ignore-tithing/" title="Why Can&#8217;t We Just Ignore Tithing?">Why Can&#8217;t We Just Ignore Tithing?</a></li><li><a href="http://churchethos.com/uncategorized/churchethos-link-love/" title="ChurchETHOS Link Love">ChurchETHOS Link Love</a></li><li><a href="http://churchethos.com/book-review/radical-faith-or-the-american-dream/" title="Radical Faith or the American Dream?">Radical Faith or the American Dream?</a></li></ul>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Big Ideas &#8211; 11.4.08</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nathancreitz</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a seminary student at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. Each day brings new insights so I thought I would try and reflect upon my day and the big ideas I&#8217;ve learned. It&#8217;s hard to find space to ponder and meditate &#8230; <a href="http://churchethos.com/making-disciples/big-ideas-11408/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h6><em>I am a seminary student at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. Each day brings new insights so I thought I would try and reflect upon my day and the big ideas I&#8217;ve learned. It&#8217;s hard to find space to ponder and meditate when I&#8217;ve got so much to read, so many papers to write, so many lectures to attend, and so many tests to take. But I think the most valuable times in seminary are the times we can reflect on the big ideas, talk them over with friends, and put them into practice. These posts will be an attempt to engage with you who are reading so that we can process these ideas conversationally. <br />
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<h2><strong>Ecclesiology</strong></h2>
<p>How do we go about forming an ecclesiology? What are the <strong>essential</strong> <strong>ingredients</strong> <strong>of church life</strong> that should be universal to all followers of Jesus living in community? Are there Scriptural norms that should inform the way we live life together and the beliefs that we believe together?</p>
<p><strong>The Pre-Constantinian Model</strong><br />
Today I was speaking with a couple of friends about a book we have been reading called <em><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=JHN7AAAACAAJ&amp;dq=journey+to+jesus" target="_blank">Journey to Jesus</a></em> by Robert Webber. I really enjoyed the book but just like most books about ecclesiology, the author seems to get stuck on one system or one paradigm that seems best to him. A lot of it is great stuff but I find it hard to believe that this is the best or only way. This particular author wants to renew the ancient traditions and rites of the pre-Constantinian church. I like studying the ancient church but I think this is a bit short-sighted. Even the second and third century church was a product of its culture. Some of that culture is similar but much of it has changed in our Post-Constantinian Christendom of today.</p>
<p><strong>Postmodern Model</strong><br />
Another friend of mine believes we need to focus on today&#8217;s culture to the exclusion (almost) of the ancient way of life of the church. He would argue that in our postmodern culture, preaching and singing are antiquated and no longer connect. Organized religion is out and there is no need for elders and hierarchy. He would say that every believer has access to the Bible today so there is no need for one person to teach, let&#8217;s learn communally. Again, I find this to be limited and, though I think it&#8217;s important to understand the modern culture, I don&#8217;t want to reject all of the ancient practices and habits of the church.</p>
<p><strong>New Testament Models</strong><br />
Then there are those who believe we should be going back to the New Testament church. This sounds great, but what do they mean? The Corinthian Church? The Church in Ephesus, Jerusalem, or Laodicea? Do we model the leadership of our churches around Paul&#8217;s tent-making, bivocational ministry or his full-time missionary journeys? I love discovering principles in the New Testament that informs the way we structure (or unstructure) church life today but is it right to do the house church thing or the large church thing&#8230;or both separately, or both together? </p>
<p><strong>Jesus Model</strong><br />
Yet another friend has rejected all of these concepts and is trying to be like Jesus before the church was established. He believes the church should grow and develop organically as we try and live like Jesus. So, he spends time in his neighborhood making disciples and gathering them together in intense and intentional community. As leaders emerge he empowers them to serve God and make disciples in their own neighborhood. If it grows into a large church, fine. But if not, he will always be discipling men and women to become true followers of Christ.</p>
<p>Wonderful ideas! One person is concerned with embracing our modern culture and making church relevant to them. Another person wants to revisit the ancient church and reestablish its rites and routines. Another person studies the New Testament for insight. A fourth person tries to live like Jesus lived with His followers. Why can&#8217;t all of these be viable options? What do they have in common? I think everyone would say our Greatest Commission is to make disciples. Is it best to do that in a large church or a house church, a postmodern church or a traditional church? No matter what way a person decides, I think there is room for all of them, even all of them together as one church, perhaps. I know a girl that never went to church until she found a small group of believers who met in a house and ate meals together and shared life. I know a guy who hated the intense scrutiny of such an intimate setting and needed (at first) the anonymity of the large crowd and the option to go deeper as the Lord led. Could one local church incorporate all of these ideas in their ecclesiology?</p>
<p><strong>An Integrated Ecclesiology</strong><br />
As for me, where do I land on the issue? I&#8217;m not sure. I was the pastor for four years of a new church that focused on intentional, relational discipleship. Could I one day pastor a large church that has programs and policies and procedures? Maybe, if I can still invest in a few people one-on-one and encourage church planting rather than simply making our church as large as possible (numerically). Could I one day pastor a small house church where we don&#8217;t preach sermons or sing songs of praise together but spend most of our time in table fellowship? Maybe, if at various times we can gather together with a larger body of believers to celebrate what God is doing corporately. Whether in small or large churches I think the essentials remain the same.</p>
<p>So here are the essentials in my opinion: <strong><em>Love God, Love People, Make Disciples, and teach them to do the same.</em></strong> If there are ways that the ancient or New Testament churches have found to do that successfully that still work today, then let&#8217;s integrate that into what we are doing. If there are new ways in modern culture that demand a shift in thinking about how we do those essential things today, then let&#8217;s do that too. But let&#8217;s not get swept away by methodology and &#8220;tactics&#8221;. Let&#8217;s meditate on how we can love God with all of our heart, soul, mind, and strength, and how we can love our neighbor as ourselves. Let&#8217;s pray for opportunities to make disciples and teach them to obey all that our Lord has commanded. What has He commanded? To Love God, Love People and to make disciples and to teach them to obey. It&#8217;s a beautiful circle that is clear and unchanging regardless of culture. These are the things we are to do as a church. It&#8217;s simple. It&#8217;s hard, but it&#8217;s simple. Love God, Love People, Make Disciples, and repeat.</p>
<p>I think Paul had this in mind when he told Timothy, &#8220;And the things you have heard me say in the presence of many witnesses entrust to reliable men who will also be qualified to teach others.&#8221; Here we find four &#8220;generations&#8221; of disciples. Paul taught Timothy to love God, love people, make disciples and teach them to obey all that Jesus commanded. Timothy then entrusted that to reliable men who would then go on to teach others. These commands that we have been taught to entrust to others is why we have a church today. The church has stood the test of time because of the &#8220;ecclesiology&#8221; that Jesus instigated at the very beginning. Sure there are other commands and other aspects of church life: sacrifice, hospitality, preaching, fellowship, service, etc. But everything that we do should be out of love for God and people and from our desire to help others to do the same.</p>
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